Some general information needed

[Samtron]

Hi all, I have thought about a few things... (does not happen often with me )

First, I discovered I have echelon access, thanks and nice! I hope that's allright so, because nobody told me... Perhaps we can make a list for the registered users/mods/admins what they are allowed to do and which commands they have. I know that there is a list in this thread, but a link on the homepage and a description of all other features would be nice (at least for me as a newbie). By the way, can mods now use !bigtext and !mute? I still have not tried online, would be useful from time to time...

Second thing was also discussed somehow lately: Teamdamage bans... The following warning found I on echelon while checking a ban reason for FragBoySlim:

Code: Select all

penalty: 119267
type: Warning
inactive: 0
added: Monday, 29/06/2009 (13:54)
expires: Thursday, 02/07/2009 (13:54)
reason: Rule #8: No profanity or offensive language (in any language) ( na 10 schaff ich nimmer :( => na10schaffichnimmer )
admin: B3


Was there actually any offensive language in it? And is a warning duration of 3 days not too much? As someone wrote in the Teamdamage-thread, this can sum up with a too-long-in-spec-warning and a teamkill, and you are banned. Perhaps we can also put a up-to-date list (like GhostSoul did) with the warnings and the expire time online for the user, so they know what B3 does and can look up online instead opening a forum thread or asking ingame "Why was I... ?".

Some of the thoughts I had in mind today... It's perhaps a lot of work (collecting data, writing, formatting...) But when someone gives me all the data I can image to set up such a list. But perhaps it's just a crappy idea...

[SvaRoX]

Hehe Samtron is the first one to notice about Echelon, gg I think Blinky will offer you some gift for that :p

Perhaps we can make a list for the registered users/mods/admins what they are allowed to do and which commands they have.

AFAIK, users don't have access to echelon and mods have only a read-only access, so you don't need to know additional commands (to be verified).
But making a commands list for users, mods and admin would sure be cool (another thing to put in a "ressources/tutos" section ?).

By the way, can mods now use !bigtext and !mute?

I remember complaining about no bigtext when I was mod... if some agree, we could change that quickly =)

And is a warning duration of 3 days not too much?

Yes it is... as Steve said, maybe we could only mute the guy than warn him. At least, the duration can be easily modified. I don't know why he was warned... probably some regex "mistake"...

Perhaps we can also put a up-to-date list (like GhostSoul did) with the warnings and the expire time online for the user, so they know what B3 does

Something on their user page for example ? I don't know if we can mix data from echelon and user, but nice idea. I know there are ingame functions to list warnings, but I don't know if regular user have access to it.

[Samtron]

Hehe Samtron is the first one to notice about Echelon, gg I think Blinky will offer you some gift for that :p

Here in my internship I have a bad ping for playing, but I am so often online that I'm daily in the forum and check out the new features... And yes, I want to have a gift!

AFAIK, users don't have access to echelon and mods have only a read-only access, so you don't need to know additional commands (to be verified).

No, I just meant the B3 ingame commands like !xlrstats, !tempban, /kill (too many complain "shoot me please")... and for the echelon is nothing needed, at most a little introduction for the mods ("on the left is.... and the button on the right...").

Something on their user page for example ? I don't know if we can mix data from echelon and user, but nice idea.

Actually that's your idea, SvaRoX! I just thought of a static page with a list and description of all warnings (just a updated post, what GhostSoul began):
- Swearing makes a warning and expires after 24h
- Teamkilling makes ...
- Warnings of different type sum up
- Three warnings makes you get kicked and a Tempban for 4h
- ...
- Avoid arguing with admins, won't help.

But a really up-to-date list for every single user would be cool, too...

[wurst]

btw. since users from forums are transferred to B3 automatically, u can just check the groups:
admins:
memberlist.php?mode=group&g=7
moderators:
memberlist.php?mode=group&g=8

admins and moderators get an echelon link, yes.
thx blinky the user data gets tranferred automatically when u click on the button.
only admins and mods see it btw hmhm.
in echelon itself admins have the right to do any, mods have read only rights.

btw: be patient with the echelon, it has own users.
they are not in sync by now, im not sure wether i can check that this evening since i have guests today...
whatever, its just a formal thing.
i just need to rethink the mechanism here and there since theres no real sync
(rights dont get demoted if demoted in phpbb)

what belongs to that ban:
wow. i think its extremely funny, i have no idea which regex term that could fit...

[bky]

i just need to rethink the mechanism here and there since theres no real sync
(rights dont get demoted if demoted in phpbb)

--- delete old accounts
DELETE FROM users
WHERE NOT EXISTS (
SELECT username FROM phpbb_users
WHERE phpbb_users.username = users.username
AND ( group_id = '5' OR group_id = '7' OR group_id = '8' )
);

works quite well for deleting old echelon accounts. (already running)

..
for b3 you could try:

UPDATE clients
SET
clients.group_bits=1
WHERE
clients.group_bits>1
AND NOT EXISTS (
SELECT username FROM phpbb_users
WHERE phpbb_users.b3_id=clients.id
AND (
phpbb_users.group_id=7
OR phpbb_users.group_id=8
OR phpbb_users.group_id=5
)
);

in the beginning of b3_matching script for setting old accounts to "registered" (not running atm)

[SvaRoX]

I think I got the regex :
<badword name="fick" lang="de">
<regexp>f[i!1]c[kh]</regexp>
</badword>
The censor plugin removes spaces, so it matches the regex on "na10schaffichnimmer" and find fich... if a poor player type "f ich" he gets a 3 days long warning We really have to do something about that. Poor FragBoy

No, I just meant the B3 ingame commands like !xlrstats, !tempban, /kill (too many complain "shoot me please")... and for the echelon is nothing needed, at most a little introduction for the mods ("on the left is.... and the button on the right...").

I think the post of XTJ7 (and others) was quite exhaustive about b3 commands, I don't use much more commands, but yes we should put it in a more accessible place. For the urt commands like /kill, I don't remember if there is already a thread about that... could be useful for beginners yes.

Ok for the warning list page, I will think about that. The post from GhostSoul is clear, more players should read it before connecting =)

[wurst]

so fragboy slim fucked without knowing it.
thats nice, immagine u would...

@blinky cool bastellaune

ja ich mach mich morgen dran denke ich, clearen brauchen wir ja nur beim b3 wo mehrere gameusers nacheinander an einen forumacount gebunden sein können...

[bky]

nacheinander? oO

(not running atm) sollte heißen, ich habs noch nich ins matcherscript geschrieben

also alte adminaccounts werden durch den zweiten code-block oben "gecleared".
kannst das mal testen, wenn du update .. set .. in select * from clients änderst

hm..i still think, we need a "mods heaven" in forum

[wurst]

je sure, that query would do that and its (btw) a security hole.
admins/mods could generate an unlimited number of accounts and sell the soul

btw: dear haxors, dont read this plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!