[banned 30d]Dizz banned [wh]

[Crusher]

Dizz banned cause wh

XLR ID: 358671
B3 ID: 413234

Ban Added: 2013-03-31 00:55:30
TempBan Expires: 2013-04-07 01:55:30

Duration: 7 days
Penalty ID: 1850277

[Crusher]

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[JRandomNoob]

Probably yes; demo real short again (couple of potentially useless megs won’t fill your hard drive, you know).

• 3:30 perfect wallhack moment, aiming squarely at a different enemy from the one he had been shooting at just a moment earlier
• 3:10 seems to look at one of the enemies behind the corner, but then their presence seems to come as a surprise
• 3:00 suspiciously fast reaction, seems to look through the corner
• 2:55 seems to look at the enemy behind the corner
• 2:45 then again, the most likely position for the enemy anyway
• 2:20 should have seen the other enemy leaving the vicinity of the corner, still waits for him
• 2:10 saw the enemy above the spawn run towards this side?
• 1:45 preshoots, but as a wallhacker, he should clearly see that there’s nobody there
• 1:40, 1:35 sound, no wallhack needed
• 1:15 seems to look up at the enemy above the spawn
• 0:35 seems to know where the enemy is (and that there is an enemy at all)

The last month or two have been incredibly paranoid, with several quickly-retracted wallhack bans by various admins, only made worse by a couple of people accusing every other player of wallhacking (Trittin, and in particular, blueday). Ladies and gentlemen, our job isn’t banning everyone who as much as looks funny at a nearby wall*; if there’s any doubt, we can wait for the player to come back, and if they don’t, well, problem solved.

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* Or calls you idiot. There’s a rather bold and brightly-colored line between being pissed at someone who just did something perceivedly unfair (not warning but kicking for camping/spawnkilling, accompanied by various unimaginative insults), and intentionally being dick towards someone, just because it’s fun.

[zietsh]

I believe that that's the paranoia of "good" players. As soon as they meet their match they refuse to blame them self.


A little bit philosophy:
I have to admit I myself wrongfully "spotted" 3 wall hackers in the past weeks, but mby the solution would be a longer demo and then talk about it in the forum before banning... for me there is no other way since I am no admin but that might just be the solution to stay away from the !ban command except if the guy is running around with 4:1 k/d ratio and therefore influencing the game-play massively.
From my experience the accusation of a suspected wallhacker comes from being killed by the same guy repeatedly in a suspicious way, as it turns out that is luck (most of the time) and then to keep the game fluent the ban is not necessary except if (like I said) the stats prove a massive influence on the entire gameplay.
And (not to point at some players specific) a lot of accusations come from players that think that they are being handled unjust and think that they can be a better admin or are a better admin. Therefore they with to unveil as many cheaters as possible that the admins did not see without them. To put it in one sentence: Most accusations from "good" players come from a scratched ego. Nothing to blame, natural reaction. That's just the reason to demo it longer and put up the demo to talk about it later when minds have cooled off. Happens to me often and I try to look at the demo 1h or so later and most of the time see for myself before I post the demo that I was blinded by my ego when playing.


EDIT:
Oh now I did not even look at the demo yet, will do it now and edit my post again with my opinion about this guy.

So:
WH, probably yes. BUT allot of those moves could have been done without a wh. Why I think hes got a wh: His stats + not complaining in the forum and playing for the first time, believe it or not I'd take into contemplation the regularity with which someone is playing on a server since after this ban, even if it is unjust a player has not been lost, just not a new one. Is that a good reason to ban him? I don't really think so but what's done is done and therefore I think it can be a good reason to justify a ban afterwards. I probably wouldn't have banned him for the simple reason that he is not more suspicious to me than blueday and he does not seem to be cheating either.... just a hard core camper on some maps.

Oh one more thing: Compared to TS, BOMB or CTF (or any server with less than 25 sluts) it is extremely hard to spot a wallhacker who is trying to hide it on a server with 45 sluts.

[Crusher]

The last month or two have been incredibly paranoid, with several quickly-retracted wallhack bans by various admins, only made worse by a couple of people accusing every other player of wallhacking (Trittin, and in particular, blueday). Ladies and gentlemen, our job isn’t banning everyone who as much as looks funny at a nearby wall*; if there’s any doubt, we can wait for the player to come back, and if they don’t, well, problem solved.

Errors everyone does and people who have higher responsability they will show up easily. Between some errors by me (not this ban in particular because it is a clear wh. Even WizardOfGore saw the guy before I came to spec), I already avoided other bans because they never showed to my eyes that they were clear to me. And sometimes I call for other admins or mods for opinion if they are online.

I am sorry that you are a bit paranoid because of some recent events. I prefer to keep myself distant of these events and think twice before doing something. In fact I agree that aside of the bans recently came here some smartasses that love to bash the admin just because he has higher responsability on the server. Again, I dont care about them.

I always appreciate the analysis of these demos which really helps but for a game which has no anticheat code and it is easy to bypass it, well I think they are only useful if someone comes here asking the reason for the ban.

Until now the banned guy didn't come here. Usually the cheaters on this server are "one hit wonders" which is the equivalent for a new guid.

[JRandomNoob]

I am sorry that you are a bit paranoid because of some recent events.

No, the general atmosphere has been paranoid, I’m just fine, thank you:-)