Forevex wallhack

[BEH]

cool thx.

[Ana]

just to explain why i permbanned him instead of the normal 1 month break.

Wearing the dswp tag, even if its only the cheer tag, means you show you are a part of a community and of course one of the biggest (i guess) in URT.

And wearing it on our server or on any other server means (to me) you represent the community.
Cheating while wearing the tag (cheating in anyway is stupid) shows, in my eyes, dswp respect cheating and tolerate in our communtiy. And i think we all did too much to get rid of cheater and other idiots (teamkiller and so on) to just let this happen.

Oder auf Deutsch: Wer dem "Verein" beitritt und nach außen zeigt das er dazu gehört hat sich zu benehmen. Wer das nicht kann fliegt raus. Und in dem Fall sag ich einfach mal... wurde einfach ein exempel statuiert das zeigt "bis hier in und nicht weiter"

rarely happens, but this time i completely agree with u! pitty that there is nothing stronger than permban

[Ana]

Yes I did it.
I used a WH. Im sorry that I did it and that I did it with a [dswp-cheer] tag.
I´ve deleted the tag and will come on mumble too to say something to this subject.
I say a second time i´m sorry and hope that you can forgive me.

I can't. Im sorry. I hope u can forgive me!

[eXtr33m]

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Diplomacy:
So Forovex is banned permanently, BUT if he gain trust back he can be unbanned (which can be in year, two, or never)...

Is this for all servers, or just tdm?

This goes down to deep statistical question...

[Ana]

Hm ye, forovex ist banned permanently.
I mean: i agree with that.
Its a special quality of cheating, when u talk to ur victims or 'look them in the eyes'
I prefer to cut any possible connection to such sucktards.
Cause 1 day such a guy will know me well enough to succeed. Maybe. Dont wanna try...
[...]

To all people who wish to see Forovex tortured, divided into four
parts and afterwards burnt on a stake:

I know what it feels like to get tricked by someone. It feels shitty,
and it's something I never forget. But I'm old enough to forgive, and
I want to shed some light on a few aspects that seem to got lost in
the heat of the battle.

1) Forovex is young (14 years) and still lacks quite a bit of
maturity. But if you think back what some (all?) of you did in your
own adolescene, you would have to triple-permban yourself from
life, according to your own views.

Today, you know that you're more mature and that you can be
trusted, and you also want be be trusted. I think the same
will also apply to Forovex (some time) after this incident.

2) Forovex only used [dswp-cheer], not [dswp]. If a Metallica groupie
stole something, no-one thinks Metallica are thieves.

3) Forovex admitted it, explained everything in detail, laid off his
tag and said sorry. How many cheaters do you know that do this, and
then don't care for the people on the server?

4) In general (not only in this case), banning someone permanently
(the same applies to e. g. putting someone for the rest of his life
to jail) leads to two things:

- You permanently ignore that person. That is a *lot* of violence.
- You destroy that person's hopes. That is a *lot* of violence.

If you just close your eyes to people causing problems, things will
get worse -- maybe you can prevent these people from directly
harming the people on your server, but then they will harm other
people, or they will harm themselves.

The only (longterm) solution is to honestly try to understand these
people and to communicate with them (which includes to
open-mindedly and really listen to them).
If your emotions are too much in the way for listening and
understanding, try it later, if you can.

Yes, there will be a subtle distrust in the back of your heads for a
long time, until Forovex proves unconditionally trustworthy, but I
think he deserves that (second) chance.


Therefore, I would like to ask all of you to reconsider your views
(not only about Forovex, but just any human being) and -- when
your emotions cooled down a bit -- adjust the length of the ban to
something you (permanently deem appropriate, be it 3 months or 1
year or even 10 years.


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at some point i would get unfair to someone else considering Forovex as my or friend of dswp.
Greedy children in kindergarden! maybe hell learn maybe not i dont care. You know what seriously? He really pissed me off. Maybe just me but its me and i am really angry cause of all. remember? coming to server first evening asking to wear dswp-chear tag. i said no. boyz said je why not. he got the permition. just like that after 2 minutes and no words, jezus christ.

You destroy that person's hopes. That is a *lot* of violence.
Well he destroyed my hope that you should believe and give chance to children in this cruel world of FPS.
And i dont think so we do him some violence. This is very good pedagogic thing for him. When u get out of home sweety home there is no love withouth givin' love, there is no respect without respecting, there is no conditionless trust!
jes im very angry and i think i should stop write now since i could write some and after be soo sorry like Forovex.
See? When you get older you start to think before you do.
so
ta-ši-ta-ši-ta-na-na

[AimMe]

Diplomacy:
So Forovex is banned permanently, BUT if he gain trust back he can be unbanned (which can be in year, two, or never)...

Is this for all servers, or just tdm?

This goes down to deep statistical question...

All bans on dswp are applied to all servers automatically.

[Peasant]

If "im so sorry i wont do it again" works for you then you had a boring childhood. he is 14, he knew what he was doing and he did it with an intention. he is sorry when he is banned. have no mercy bring the oil and burn him

my drunken humble opinion

[Rayne]

I think most of us realize this Forovex guy isn't sorry he cheated, he's sorry he got caught.
Using age as an excuse is a pathetic move. Especially cause from what he wrote it's rather clear he did it in full awareness of the consequence.
He knew what he's doing is bad, he knew it will get him banned, and on top of all, while knowing all that he goes to another server (possibly more) to spread the word.

[wurst]

Oki let me end that topic Forovex...

Thx everyone for paying atention.
Thx Rayne for still being here, for keping an eye on us.
Thats truly not what i (or anyone here) expected from u.

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