Butcher(RUS) wallhack

[AimMe]

Shooting in (wall or box?).

[SteveMcqueen]

CONFIRMED....


a must see... this is with "/r_shownormals 1" the funniest demo i've seen

[Salami]

Sorry mates, i have to disagree.

in my opinion it's just game/map bug. "shownormals" helps to see that. he aims after he stand up and look through fence.
If it was wallhack you wouldn't see on demo guy he's aiming at without shownormals 1.
Pay attention to first few secons - arm and leg sticking out of box...

Go to KRFA demo, there is a moment at bath, in this small room, when a gun is sticking out of wall. that's just a bug.

When you play more you will see that it happens quite often.
there are some places i.e. at ramelle - this roof with "boxes" always occupied by blue and opposite roof with one "box" occupied by red. players hiding behind them are sometimes visible through - or parts of their body/weapon. idk why. At bath it is even possible to shoot through closed doors - trick with gun sticking out of them, idk how it's possible but i saw that more than once!!!

i was trying to figure it out but got no clue. maybe when somebody "walks into" wall/box/door?
Try asking someone who plays a lot i.e. Knirps.

[AimMe]

Sorry mates, i have to disagree.

in my opinion it's just game/map bug. "shownormals" helps to see that. he aims after he stand up and look through fence.
If it was wallhack you wouldn't see on demo guy he's aiming at without shownormals 1.
Pay attention to first few secons - arm and leg sticking out of box...

Go to KRFA demo, there is a moment at bath, in this small room, when a gun is sticking out of wall. that's just a bug.

When you play more you will see that it happens quite often.
there are some places i.e. at ramelle - this roof with "boxes" always occupied by blue and opposite roof with one "box" occupied by red. players hiding behind them are sometimes visible through - or parts of their body/weapon. idk why. At bath it is even possible to shoot through closed doors - trick with gun sticking out of them, idk how it's possible but i saw that more than once!!!

i was trying to figure it out but got no clue. maybe when somebody "walks into" wall/box/door?
Try asking someone who plays a lot i.e. Knirps.

It comes out of wall, thats true, i saw it too. But that's only one part of demo. He shooted at that box few times in row. If he don't cheats he must be very stupid. Noone will shoot like that....

And more, before that guy on tower, he was aiming at wall and moving (with cursor) like he follows something. Possibly he had some kind of aimbot which can aim only the nearest player (by air distance).

[SteveMcqueen]

i know he could just have seen the arm/leg. before the demo started.

but no matter, he always aims right at the middle of his body... ALWAYS.
- at the start of the demo he does not see anything... i take blind shots, too, but not on that distance, and i cant aim on the same spot. without wh he would move right away into a position where he could see the enemy... just because he could not, no matter if he has seen him before the demo started.
- Also when the victim-to-be moves very slowly to the right a bit, he also aims more to the right. but exactly the same amount, so that hes still in the middle of the target.
- Even when he could have shot that guy into arme/leg or really torso... he shoots into the middle of the box.
- what any smart guy would have done, as after the first two shots you realize the shooting through the box does not work, and he still keeps on trying, though.

ive watched the demo several times, first without shownormals, then with it... i cant help, after the first watch i already thought "not clean".
i still stick with him being a newbie cheater.

i also guess aimme has seen more than what is here n demo? after that "incident" which we all know about he certainly got more careful. (not joking, just IMO)


and i know about the thing with running into doors... which makes u vulnerable. it just works on every map, with doors, not even with thin entities, but not with boxes.
i have seen it often enough in the last 7 years, believe me.

[Salami]

hmmm, watching the same seeing the different....

imho it's just a dumb player

[SteveMcqueen]

=)

he is dumb, but noone is THAT dumb when he already figured out to take good cover.... see above for my arguement =)

in cases like this i guess we got to make polls... majority says clear --> then no ban

[AimMe]

i also guess aimme has seen more than what is here n demo? after that "incident" which we all know about he certainly got more careful. (not joking, just IMO)

Well, if he isn't suspicious i don't even spectate him. If he doesn't cheat (or it really looks like it) i don't start recording. I ban when i'm 100% sure that he cheats.

And i learned something after my first ban.

and i know about the thing with running into doors... which makes u vulnerable. it just works on every map, with doors, not even with thin entities, but not with boxes.

That's true, you can shoot through doors if somebody is behind, but not through big boxes...