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 Post subject: Possible cheater?
PostPosted: 01.20.11 
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Hey fellow fraggers!

I noticed a player that maybe uses some kind of "aimtargetting" to help shooting. It is not actual aimbot, but works as the same way. :x

He uses it quite wisely, but sometimes the use of it is quite clear

What do you think of this demo?


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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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Looks like a low-FOV aimbot, badly configured at that (doesn't hit too often).

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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Watched the demo with /timescale 0.2 and I'd say he's clean. However, he has surprisingly good aim for his movement and the lack of ability to let go of the fire button.

Oh, and even if he is a cheater with that ratio it doesn't really matter because he isn't ruining the game much. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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natirips wrote:
Oh, and even if he is a cheater with that ratio it doesn't really matter because he isn't ruining the game much. ;)

:D

Truly, spending lots of time on someone like this one would be rather pointless. However, here I have a chance to learn again: when he aims at someone, his crosshair stops abruptly (and on the market, stays on target while the enemy is jumping down from the alley balcony). Of course, the fact that he's aiming at the model, not the hitbox, is a typical human mistake; however, combined with the crosshair movements, I concluded that it's a badly working bot. Comments?

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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Yes, what a tricky guy!

Let's hope he doesn't start to play or code bots better :lol:



 


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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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maybe its an expirienced player that practice with his children the mouse button?

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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Okokiller wrote:
Let's hope he doesn't start to play or code bots better :lol:

I somewhat doubt that someone who could write his own bot would go to a public server with it working that badly... Things like that are the bane of untested software: "real" bugs are relatively easy to find and fix, but the edge cases (depending on the environment) prove to be more difficult. When you throw something as inherently unstable as game into the mix, strange things can happen. (For a hilarious example, see this guy.)

Oh, and c0n9r47ul4ti0nz f0r 31337 k1llz!-)

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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Haha. Funny video!
Maybe he just was too good that he only needed more challenge ;)

..and thx. Over 30k kills took me over 2 years to accomplish...

Well, that my video-guy stays kind a mystery. It really doesn't matter, but I just had a strong feeling there's something behind this...It was nice to hear your comments!

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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JRandomNoob wrote:
his crosshair stops abruptly
Yes, but movement towards the target is not at constant speed. Could it be lock-on-target-something?

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 Post subject: Re: Possible cheater?
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natirips wrote:
Yes, but movement towards the target is not at constant speed. Could it be lock-on-target-something?

Um, it feels weird to explain it to a mod, but a bot set to a very low FOV (10° or so) allows you to move pretty much unhindered (you've seen those idiots who lemming because their bot starts tracking at the most inappropriate moment), but locks your crosshair when sweeping over an enemy.

Anyway, I watched it again (yes, in slow motion, as before) and now I kinda wonder how I saw anything unusual here. (Well, his inability to stop shooting is unusual, but not nearly illegal.) Even when firmly on target (which doesn't happen all the time), his crosshair floats somewhat, unlike low-FOV bots I've seen this far that can lose the target when it moves too fast and have to be realigned. So... now I'm saying "no bot".

I have to grow a bigger ego so I wouldn't feel silly that often:-)

EDIT: Sorry, 10 degrees would be way too much, 1 or 2 at most.

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