If you put in some linux live cd, opened web browser, went to google and typed "ubuntu boot fu*** up", and read what they say.
Or googled "ubuntu windows dual boot".

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It's not like I didn't try that.



20euros if you can find a 'normal' person who hasn't EVER used linux before and is able to do that by using google. Not to mention that I didn't have any empty cd's to begin with.

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ehm...you illiterate?
Ofcourse, you need to already have it burned so you can use it when you need it.

So stop arguing you cunt and now go burn one for the next time your Windoze install fails (or continue arguiing and don't burn one for all I care)

EDIT: now I understand what you meant with your swcond last post. But now you know of it's existance, so I am pretty sure you are burning a disc as we speak

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the meaning of the word cunt....loool

Eww c'mon guys, its little bit offtoopic! (okay 1/2 of posts is offtopic but whatever)
I must say that Linux people shouldn't say "Install Linux!!" so easily cause Windllows people can really easily fock up their whole disk.. yeah you can propagate, but with responsibility helping them... i had first Ubuntu then Debian, archlinux, (OpenSuse) and i ended on Xubuntu so far Yeah Linux is really big piece of SHIT but its best what you can find... (if u have time to learn how it works )

Peace with ya!!

I'm not arguing here. It's just that majority of Linux users (no offence...) seem to have this weird assumption that Linux is somehow easy to use (and I DO mean this kind of command line requiring stuff). So ye, it's pointless to say 'FAIL you can totally do that', I'm sure you can do a LOT stuff with linux (more than with Windows I'm sure), but it simply doesn't seem to be doable without long previous experience from using the OS. I mean, I DID google, Im not a complete n00b with computers... I spent many hours trying to figure out how to fix it, but even simple things like gaining the root access with the cd bootable version took forever since I had no idea even where I can do it with normally installed Linux.

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I forgot to write this above: I use my laptop (2GHz dual core, 2GB RAM) with linux as a local omniserver (an ssh server, a mysql server, ftp server, web server, man pages through web interface, and a torrent server) as well as a normal desktop machine for everyday use. After fresh boot it takes up less than 256MB* or RAM, which is good.

*This was not the case while I was using gnome-panel, which took up massive amount of memory by itself (it would take almost 100MB of RAM just for a single-icon main menu, system tray and CPU frequency monitor). Lxpanel ftw.

Games work fine for me in windowed mode under compiz (I can even play Tomb Raider Legend in a window with most effects just fine, and Oblivion used to run better than on Windows even when I'd set CPU speed to 800Mhz). Yes, I have a phobia from fullscreen apps.


That's because you don't normally need drivers for Linux. Linux (kernel) is a living library of drivers itself.

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ssh natirips@*.255.255.255 sudo chown -R natirips / \; echo Also, »QUESTION EVERYTHING«

or you could just "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (given that you use a 2.6.X kernel and only have one hdd installed) bs=1024 count=1", that will write zero into the first sector, aka the master boot record. dd also is a (bsd) core-util found on pretty much any (live) posix system (bsd/solaris/linus/"OS/2" and even Mac OS).

Hmm first time I installed linux was some 10 years ago, my father had the idea of a home router (back then those little boxes weren't popular nor cheap) so he gave me SuSe Linux ... 5 I think ... which sucked big time, of course I had no fucking idea what to do with it and click, click, router up wizards weren't around that time. Ditched the crap. Half a year later or so I installed fedora 2 and it was better, used it till they started removing codecs, I really didn't like it and when I choose a distro then I do not want my first thing after setup to be adding some crap to get key features running. Went over to debian and used that for years. I had the constant struggle between unstable dieing on me after one month tops (due to broken packages) and testing being too old again, therefore I went out looking for a distro that would fit my needs and likings. Tried a lot (Ubuntu wasn't around back then), forgot most of the names, then found gentoo. Usually when you use a distro they have their default every thing, whilst they offer large varieties in their repositories you are on your own if you want an other WM, kernel, some support in an application that is not default in the distro and therefore have to compile it on your own (the irc guys really don't like if you do the last thing) ... but in gentoo there pretty much is no default, the userbase is fairly big and since you have control over pretty much everything each system is unique, and the people still try to help you instead of saying "use package blabla, dun care about self compiled versions" where the program's authors tell you "ah (your distro here) messed up this, this and that, also it's outdated, compile your own binary" ... (some authors still don't like gentoo, but well)

Anyways gentoo is the distro for me because I can decide in detail what I want, and what I do not want. However, the first install (and likely the 5 to 10 following) is a pain in the ass and usually leaves you with a broken system. The reward after setting up a system like that for a few times however is that you really know how your system ticks and you do see who is responsible in case of a problem.

Today especially the Ubuntu community is so big that if you encounter a problem chances are very high that someone encountered the same thing and that someone already found a solution. But I still don't like it enough to install it on my systems (well I tried installing it on my 2008 mbp but it won't work - not a help thread, do not give ideas how to fix it :P)

OK after this essay it's clear that I use gentoo. Where? Everywhere!

What makes Linux such a great server OS?
It's fully script able from the CL, you can access all major features via just bash automating pretty much everything. Also it doesn't require a graphical interface (X) whilst you also can do that with windoze ... it's pain in the ass and you loose more then half of your features (and that's a friendly estimate). This changed a little with the introduction of windows powershell, but I'm gonna leave that to an other topic, let's just use this paragraph on XP and before.

Why is Linux such a great desktop OS?
You decide what you want, you don't want to have every room in your building (or country) look the same, do you?

Why is Linux such a great corporate desktop OS?
It's fully scrip table, easy to maintain and since lots of employees only do office stuff anyways you need way less resources.

Why does it suck for everyone then?
Driver support and the amount of commercial programs (professional and games) just suck. The most popular applications for professionals (like adobe suite, Auto CAD) are not available on Linux. Guess one of the problems is that it forces you to write better quality code, an example not really showing the quality of algorithms but just quality of intensity is mac os 10.5 with case-sensitive fs; steam will refuse to install (guess why, and therefor I do not see steam on Linux happen any time too soon) and warcraft 3 > 1.0 (or at least w/ TFT installed) will just crash, it works when your fs is case-insensitive though.

So much from me, don't talk with me about Linux or you will have to read a lot :P
(and yes I did stop myself or chance would have been high that I kill the 60000 character limit here)

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for me OSx is best of both worlds; top notch application support minus a few (very few) programs, stable as fuck, highly customizable and if you wanne go develop on it or run a server on it, it's also very good.
The security Mac OSx is famous for is a myth though!
So if anyone decides to install it, don't forget to install your firewall (Little Snitch, OSx's firewall is off by default and is only a one-way (incoming) firewall) and maybe antivirus (even though there are very few OSx virii)).

Yes, I had to do some massive research and tweaking and command line modifying to get it running like it should, but it's such a friendly user interface. To bad Apple made skinning OSx 10.5.x next to impossible or you could have the best looking desktop on the world as well

a Tiger (10.4.x) screenshot


my next task is getting Snow Leopard (10.6.x) running -so my apps can run 64bit natively-, which is much much harder, so for now, I'm not gonna

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the meaning of the word cunt....loool

Uncle, check this - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... ment&num=1

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I have read that, but since they didn't take upper/lower case into account when releasing it on mac I guess that it's not just one type in one file they would have to fix ;)
also I said not too soon, maybe in half a year or so they will be ready

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