DSWP RULESET - updated update 21.7.09

[SteveMcqueen]

[where to hold positions?]

it depends on where it's most needed.

that's the point.

[AimMe]

Aside from being lame, if a lot of players play like this, your team will lose, TDM is all about attacking!

I agree!

I think all is said, defending is when enemies keep coming, and you move around that spot, camping is just sitting like chicken on eggs, aiming in 1 spot (not necessary) and not moving at all.

[Samtron]

- dont spawncamp/basecamp/camp

Recently there was a discussion ingame about spawncamping... I think Fragboy and ud'kuban were involved, when I remember correctly...

For skilled players it's easy to reach the opposite spawn on maps like Coconut for example. What should they do?

I think, it is spawn camping if you can see directly the spawn area and wait for shooting on players who just spawned. In this cases I sometimes fire some bullets in their direction or throw a grenade with a bad conscience, but then I go back a bit and look for a spot of the map with more action and more challenge.

To reach the opposite spawn is not a crime for my, but if you wait there and shoot on fresh respawned players it's lame... Just my thoughts about it. I dont like the sniper camper on Uptown and Casa sitting there and waiting for spawners

[SteveMcqueen]

if you run by and make 3-4-5 frags, its okay i guess.

if that is not what you do all the time.

[HumppaLakki]

And in fact, its another thing to run over a huge map, rush the spawn, make some kills and try after that another strategy.

Its about camping on a position were you can directlly look at the enemys spawn

[manhut]

Also: Don't AFK.
Isn't there some AFK/Camping protection, like standing still for 1 minute will kill you, and if you continue to do so, you can get kicked/banned?

[SteveMcqueen]

there is, and its working: the inactivity drop

but i do not know how long it takes to happen. but i know for sure it works, happened yesterday to me.

[SvaRoX]

Its about camping on a position were you can directlly look at the enemys spawn

Still the same problem about camping : imagine 5 people taking turns at the same spot from which you can see the enemy spawn, at the end no one camp but the poor guys would have a hard time getting out of their spawn... really hard to define camping, all I can say is that camping is lame =)

Isn't there some AFK/Camping protection, like standing still for 1 minute will kill you, and if you continue to do so, you can get kicked/banned?

Except the inactivity drop which is quite useless against camping I think. Wurst has the idea to add an anti-camp system to UrT imported from other Q3 mod, unfortunately UrT is not open source, so no anti-camp at the moment :/

[AimMe]

Also: Don't AFK.
Isn't there some AFK/Camping protection, like standing still for 1 minute will kill you, and if you continue to do so, you can get kicked/banned?

There is always !k <name> afk, since one admin/mod is nearly always online.

[pharaohSRB]

I think, it is spawn camping if you can see directly the spawn area and wait for shooting on players who just spawned.

Let's define spawn camping plz!
For me spawn camping (or whatever it call) is when ppls camp around their spawn area or their base. I realy h8 that, sometimes i'm nearly close to kick that players but i don't want to abuse my moderators rights.
What is point to camp all time on one place on map? What is point to camp on this places when u r blue on Kingdom?


For skills - that players have score like 8:2! Becouse red don't get always on roof.
I can understand when red teams are 2 strong, but if they are not? Somethimes (when i'm red on kingdom), afrer 5 min of playing i hardly get roof and see player who camp there and kill me and have score like 2:0!!! Afrer 5 min!!!
How u can get a good score in game (for me point this game), is to one team take a important places on map. In that case u can "control" the game and u can help ur teammates becouse the other team must breake with big losses.
Sorry for bad english, i don't know how to explain that good, but i think u can understand what i'm talking about.
For that reason i'm everywhere on map, i'm trying not to let the other team have control of some places on map. In that case my team loose for sure, and everybody in my team have a bad score.
So if u try to get some places to shoot us on our spawn area i'm coming for u.