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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby BEH » 03.30.11

wurst wrote:A proxy for UDP is called router, maybe a pipe could help. but never just Proxy.
It should be hard for a home user to redirect UDP traffic free of charge.


hmm
Am I the only one not getting this post?
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby natirips » 03.30.11

@BEH: wursti must have found something in the database that makes that post make sense to Forevex (i.e. loads of connections with different GUIDs but from the same Internet connection). You know that Wursti is a stalker - he can find a lot of information :) .
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby BEH » 03.30.11

ach so..
oki

Should i be scared now btw? :)
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby natirips » 03.30.11

You should be scared if you're doing something nasty on the serwer.

I remember when I registered, I soon got a PM from Wursti asking me if I were AimMe who forgot the password... (AimMe was an admin here before I started playing UrT at all)
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby Pirat » 03.30.11

AimMe wrote:[...] Unless somebody else does something, your ban
expires in month as every other cheater. I see no reason why you would
be exception... After it you'll have second chance. And second is your
last.
[...]
PS: month is enough time for you to boost your performance on some other server.

As far as I understood, the ban is not one month, but
permanent:
HumppaLakki wrote:checked demo twice. Permbanned.


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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby natirips » 03.31.11

I just checked echelon, the ban is really permanent, which is rare for someone who haven't been banned for cheating before (at least that very same account does not contain an older ban for cheating, only for teamkilling, camping and the stuff). It's probably because of that comment on his profile: "Wallhack, cheating on other server."
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby AimMe » 03.31.11

Then you're in some deep sh!t :)
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby wurst » 03.31.11

Hm ye, forovex ist banned permanently.
I mean: i agree with that.
Its a special quality of cheating, when u talk to ur victims or 'look them in the eyes'
I prefer to cut any possible connection to such sucktards.
Cause 1 day such a guy will know me well enough to succeed. Maybe. Dont wanna try...

@UDP- Topic
Its not black magic.
Proxying is a thing thats attached to TCP for protocol design reasons.
Theres possibility, its easy. It means that u define an Address 'proxy server side'.
This proxy, where u cant specify target address from client: its called a pipe.

Theres more ways for redirection: Tuneling on IP layer.
Sounds strange again, but is simple (or better: its standard technologies of today).
Keyword: VPN.
It means that u have some bucks, nobody give u that for free.
Its cause mainly enterprises use it, in order to connect the fucking copy machine in a branch office.
They MUST pay, i think anyone agrees just... :)
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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby Pirat » 03.31.11

wurst wrote:Hm ye, forovex ist banned permanently.
I mean: i agree with that.
Its a special quality of cheating, when u talk to ur victims or 'look them in the eyes'
I prefer to cut any possible connection to such sucktards.
Cause 1 day such a guy will know me well enough to succeed. Maybe. Dont wanna try...
[...]


To all people who wish to see Forovex tortured, divided into four
parts and afterwards burnt on a stake:


I know what it feels like to get tricked by someone. It feels shitty,
and it's something I never forget. But I'm old enough to forgive, and
I want to shed some light on a few aspects that seem to got lost in
the heat of the battle.

    1) Forovex is young (14 years) and still lacks quite a bit of
    maturity. But if you think back what some (all?) of you did in your
    own adolescene, you would have to triple-permban yourself from
    life, according to your own views.

    Today, you know that you're more mature and that you can be
    trusted, and you also want be be trusted. I think the same
    will also apply to Forovex (some time) after this incident.

    2) Forovex only used [dswp-cheer], not [dswp]. If a Metallica groupie
    stole something, no-one thinks Metallica are thieves.

    3) Forovex admitted it, explained everything in detail, laid off his
    tag and said sorry. How many cheaters do you know that do this, and
    then don't care for the people on the server?

    4) In general (not only in this case), banning someone permanently
    (the same applies to e. g. putting someone for the rest of his life
    to jail) leads to two things:

    - You permanently ignore that person. That is a *lot* of violence.
    - You destroy that person's hopes. That is a *lot* of violence.

    If you just close your eyes to people causing problems, things will
    get worse -- maybe you can prevent these people from directly
    harming the people on your server, but then they will harm other
    people, or they will harm themselves.

    The only (longterm) solution is to honestly try to understand these
    people and to communicate with them (which includes to
    open-mindedly and really listen to them).
    If your emotions are too much in the way for listening and
    understanding, try it later, if you can.



Yes, there will be a subtle distrust in the back of your heads for a
long time, until Forovex proves unconditionally trustworthy, but I
think he deserves that (second) chance.


Therefore, I would like to ask all of you to reconsider your views
(not only about Forovex, but just any human being) and -- when
your emotions cooled down a bit -- adjust the length of the ban to
something you (permanently ;-) deem appropriate, be it 3 months or 1
year or even 10 years.


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Re: Forevex wallhack

Postby BEH » 03.31.11

Pirat: in what church do you preach?

Besides that funny note I agree with your views, but I'm just a moderator. :)
And it IS true that we'll always be wary of 'is he cheating again?' when/if he's unbanned and playing again. Which isn't really relaxed now, is it?

btw I thought humppa was gonna turn his permban into a 1 month ban anyways, or did I hear incorrectly?
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