mapcycle suggestions AND map suggestions

[zietsh]

ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_prague
ut4_mandolin
ut4_sanc
ut4_casa
ut4_domking_rc1
ut4_algiers
ut4_subterra
ut4_abbey
ut4_turnpike
ut4_uptown
ut4_elign
ut4_paris_v2
ut4_swim
ut4_docks
ut4_thingley

[bagheera]

What would you say for such a mapcycle?


ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_mandolin
ut4_cache_b6 (positive reception by players, good gameplay)
ut4_turnpike
ut4_dust2_v2 (classic of bomb, I don't care there is a dust2 only server, I don't play there! )
ut4_sanc
ut4_prague
ut4_subterra
ut4_abbey
ut4_train_dl1 (classic of bomb)
ut4_uptown
ut4_facade_b5 (nice map, interesting gameplay)
ut4_casa
ut4_domking_rc1
ut4_paris_v2
ut4_swim
ut4_algiers
ut4_docks
ut4_austria (edit, I forgot about this, quite interesting gameplay)

Maps to out of current mapcycle:
ut4_thingley (big map and boring gameplay)
ut4_elgin (btw there is a typo, so it's not even played, anyway boring map)

Other interesting maps to keep in mind:
ut4_cambridge_b1
ut4_area3_b4
ut4_beijing_b3
ut4_inferno_b3
ut4_tohunga_b8
ut4_tohunga_b10
ut4_toxic

[pretender]

Yo guys
ut4_orbital_sl Good one
ut4_mandolin Good map - Red sided
ut4_cache_b6 No idea wanna try soon
ut4_turnpike Mandatory
ut4_dust2_v2 Buggy, boring, overplayed, i hate it ( But could hook up newbies and oldies))
ut4_sanc Very good
ut4_prague Good but ppl leave when this is played.
ut4_subterra Not recommended currently. Once stable base is made then better to have. Remember people tend to leave on this map.
ut4_abbey Ofcourse
ut4_train_dl1 (classic of bomb) Agreed and popular with dswp crowd- However not recommended in usual cycle.
ut4_uptown Definitely, fills void of vertical play and jumping and lemming.
ut4_facade_b5 (nice map, interesting gameplay) Not recommended before stable base players
ut4_casa It is always good to play but it is a red sided map. doesnt work with 3vs3 or 4vs4 but awesome when server full
ut4_domking_rc1 Not recommended currently
ut4_paris_v2 Hmm, People leave. Mixed feeling for this
ut4_swim Tough for some, Usually not recommended
ut4_algiers Must have
ut4_docks , Very good for regulars but hard for newbies. And its a red sided map
ut4_austria (edit, I forgot about this, quite interesting gameplay) agreeeed.

I will add more recommendation later

[zietsh]

Ok since everybody is posting lists, here is my list I 'carry around' since I started playing bomb mainly:

orbital_sl
domking
swim
toxic
casa
docks
kingpin (where I would mainly recommend the old one)
persia
sanc
paris_v2
uptown (meh, but works)
subterra
elgin
mandolin
prague
ramelle
thingley
area3
barn (for few only)
rip_release
dust_a4 (no locations but good gameplay)
druglord_"
inferno (no minimap but still cool)
ricochet (just cause some dont know how to play the map does not mean its a bad map)
crossing
nepal (for few only)


btw, cycle right now:
ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_prague
ut4_mandolin
ut4_sanc
ut4_casa
ut4_algiers
ut4_subterra
ut4_abbey
ut4_toxic
ut4_turnpike
ut4_dust2_v2
ut4_austria
ut4_elgin
ut4_paris_v2
ut4_swim
ut4_docks
ut4_thingley
ut4_tohunga_b8
ut4_cache_b6
ut4_crossing
ut4_kingpin

[pretender]

bath/swim is not good at all
It is more confusing than eagle
No good in pub....
Not even good for ctf

[wurst]

swim is mad in tdm, in bomb it has 1 easy and 1 hard (blk) bombspot, dont like it either...

about maps:
this topic never ends and and it sucks alot since theres no truth just taste.
sure we have majorities. if we dare to count them.
cause of that we implemented an automatic map vote.
u can look it here:
map_voting.php

now this machine was fully accepted for the first but over time less and less people used it.
i think a complete new cycle every week was too much for the typical TDM player.
plus voting once a week is worse then it could happen to a swiss man. (:
ah and sure, teh jump needs another map cycle, so do TDM/Bomb etc.
making them vote for all those servers will harm compliance even more.

anyways, if u ask me is cool to have a machine for things that occur frequently.
im the guy that prefers dish washers.
so mine wish would be to enhance that cyclevote bot if theres a sane concept.
its bringing players to us and in action that are not satisfied with the situation, i think thats a real peace keeper.
i need some ideas how it could be.

we could take just 1 new map in cycle every week for example.
and throwing out 1 goes like that:
we have the player numbers in DB. we have them @ map start and we have them @ map end.
that way we find the least popular map.
in past this wasnt possible cause the "cycled out bug" but that seems to be fixed.
in a short: bot throw bad map out, humans choose new map in. limit to 1 map / week

this was just 1 of 1000 ideas, i would like to have some feedback.
we have alot of data inside B3, we can have even more cause were able to modify everything.
(not everything, for exampe the irc bot (cuntbot) has no support atm)


@custom maps
custom maps always need some time till people start to enjoy them.
maybe we can prevent adding custom maps as long as people struggle with the maps that are already there.
we would have to monitor fluctuation over time.
again, we could monitor map-connect/disconnect behaviour.
maybe more interesting for TDM users...

@cycle sequence
ah and sure we have the issue of map sequence.
having 5 sniper maps in a row is hard for automatic players.
sure the map cycle vote has a table with voteable maps.
size is already there, what about else map infos that can help building the cycle?

[bagheera]

@voting system on the forum
In the long term it will never work, because the amount of people who visit the forum isn't comparable to these who play at server . Though voting for maps via B3 could work. Lilpwny community had such a system on their servers, !like and !dislike commands for maps.

@cycle sequence
for all servers it should be first of all size formula bigger/smaller(medium)/bigger map etc.. to let people cycle to smaller map if there are just few players on. Subsequently mixing 3rd party maps with official ones, and most popular with slightly less ones.

@custom maps ---> 2nd server dedicated for them
the advantage of bomb over survivor is that there are plenty good or at least decent bomb 3rd party maps! Since I mentioned that 7v7 server is recently very popular in the evenings and its hard to join. (I already heard complaints from few people about it and I often see people going away from spec slots dissapointed that they couldnt join the game.) There should be 2nd bomb server! And why not make it custom maps only (in other topic i suggested cs maps only one). 1st server could turn to classic then (official maps + just most popular custom maps like orbital or dust2 in the cycle, or some other which gain popularity on the 2nd server). Zietsh promised to look at the possibility of making a b3 script to set different round limit of each map. That would realy benefit especially on such a server. Very good and appreciated maps could be set to 10 rounds, good but less known to 7 and maps to test or just decent to 5 for example.

And finaly another maprotation list for such a server!

ut4_tohunga_b8
ut4_cache_b6
ut4_facade_b5
ut4_subterra
ut4_pandora_b7
ut4_dust2_v2
ut4_cambridge_b1
ut4_area3_b4
ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_inferno_b3
ut4_tohunga_b10
ut4_train_dl1
ut4_paris_v2
ut4_druglord2
ut4_aztek_b2
ut4_beijing_b3
ut4_dust_a4
ut4_northport_beta4
ut4_nepal
ut4_oaks_b2
ut4_obj_delta
ut4_obj_depot
ut4_metro_b2
ut4_persia2
ut4_venice_b7
ut4_unload_beta
ut4_sliema
ut4_village
ut4_shahideen
ut4_desolate_rc1

[bagheera]

And finaly another maprotation list for such a server!

ut4_tohunga_b8
ut4_cache_b6
ut4_facade_b5
ut4_subterra
ut4_pandora_b7
ut4_dust2_v2
ut4_cambridge_b1
ut4_area3_b4
ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_inferno_b3
ut4_tohunga_b10
ut4_train_dl1
ut4_paris_v2
ut4_druglord2
ut4_aztek_b2
ut4_beijing_b3
ut4_dust_a4
ut4_northport_beta4
ut4_nepal
ut4_oaks_b2
ut4_obj_delta
ut4_obj_depot
ut4_metro_b2
ut4_persia2
ut4_venice_b7
ut4_unload_beta
ut4_sliema
ut4_village
ut4_shahideen
ut4_desolate_rc1

+ ut4_australia_beta

... and for Zietsh link to northport! http://www.praze-urt.tk/maps/

[bagheera]

Guys could you configure 5v5 bomb server as custom maps only? ( At least to prevent me from replying my own posts here! )

Is it possible to block voting for standard (official) urt maps somehow? Then custom maps rotation could be shorter, and the rest of custom maps just votable.

Example of good (imho)short cycle:

ut4_nepal (small map, good kickstarter)
ut4_tohunga_b8
ut4_cache_b6
ut4_facade_b5
ut4_dust2_v2
ut4_cambridge_b1
ut4_area3_b4
ut4_orbital_sl
ut4_inferno_b3
ut4_train_dl1
ut4_beijing_b3
ut4_dust_a4

[booker]

Map suggestions to add in the JUMP Server

Some skilled players requested this two maps:

ut4_azedia: http://www.urtjumpers.com/map.php?id=467
ut4_elfix_b1: http://www.urtjumpers.com/map.php?id=535

I propose to add:

ut42_compendium_u1: http://www.urtjumpers.com/map.php?id=341
ut4_hurricane: http://www.urtjumpers.com/map.php?id=546

and Jupiter´s update:
ut42_jupiter: http://www.urtjumpers.com/map.php?id=68

Thanks