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[natirips]

Well, we played almost all the time (racing games), but maybe because we was learning craps -> we, one of the best high schools in Slovakia and we had to learn Mycrapsoft Office Word 2003..
I can shit on our school system..

That is so true! ATM we are learning Megashit Office and Pascal. What do we need Pascal for??? Yeah, it is easiest language for beginers since it's like writing orders in english, but still..... its old.

Sorry, I don't find Pascal being easy at all, rather retarded. IMO C is much easier. (not to mention the difference in power).

However, I think learning programming should start with something like perl (simple, easy, powerfull, although not fast).

And I also think that OpenOffice should be learnt at school, since it's both free and follows international standards. Not to mention how you can use your knowledge even when a new version comes out.

[AimMe]

Sorry, I don't find Pascal being easy at all, rather retarded. IMO C is much easier. (not to mention the difference in power).

You'll understand one day that people are stupid. They don't know how to write:

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for i:=1 to 10 do begin
       if a=b then c:=c+1;
end;

Do you expect same person to write:

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for (int i=1;i<10;i++) {if (a=b) {c++}}

Not sure if i forgot some ";" in c++ code.

But people who don't understand programing at all, will be surely lost in all ()s and {}s, plus they won't know what to write. How to write line? writeln or cout <<. Or was it cout >>? I know but those people will never learn.

But this is offtopic now.

[natirips]

@Aimme: The above "c" code would almost work in perl (only $-signs are missing in front of each variable name), but you are missing a ; for c. And cout<< is from c++.

And we are not getting offtopic. I insist.

[SvaRoX]

The 2 pieces of code are different, the second looping only 9 times =) (and it lacks the second '=' and ';' as you said).
Beginning to learn programming with Perl, the dirtiest language ever ?! oO I like Perl, but I would never advise someone to begin programming with it, so much bad habits and particular syntax...
The first language they taught us at school was Ada, which has lots of constraints, and is almost opposed to Perl when it comes to his motto (there is almost one way only to do it =). I remember the first lessons, knowing that it was a language rarely used it pissed me off, but now when I think about I guess it's probably a good language to begin with (not forced object layer, natural way of coding, typed language, you don't deal with memory like in C...)
Ok that's offtopic

[XTJ7]

Maybe it'd be good to start off with something like Java, jump into the world of OOP right away. It may make sense, especially if you are going to develop in languages that heavily rely on OOP (like C#, not so much but still applicable: C++). Plus you can use that OOP knowledge even in languages like PHP to develop more clean applications.

[dmmh]

just run Q3 of a USB thumb drive and you're done

[Rayne]

Well, we played almost all the time (racing games), but maybe because we was learning craps -> we, one of the best high schools in Slovakia and we had to learn Mycrapsoft Office Word 2003..
I can shit on our school system..

That is so true! ATM we are learning Megashit Office and Pascal. What do we need Pascal for??? Yeah, it is easiest language for beginers since it's like writing orders in english, but still..... its old.

You think pascal is old? I can only wish we learned a programing language like pascal in high school. What we had to learn is Q-Basic.
That shit is ancient, and retarded beyond imagination.

[natirips]

You think pascal is old? I can only wish we learned a programing language like pascal in high school. What we had to learn is Q-Basic.
That shit is ancient, and retarded beyond imagination.

QBASIC is the best programming language I've ever seen or used. It was also my first programming language. It's got sheer power, alas it is outdated these days. Other than that the only thing I miss with it is cross-platform compatibility. It's help system alone defeats every other existing laguage out there.

Name a language other than QBASIC that lets you draw graphics in only two statements, or play a sound (or even a whole coded melody) in only one statement. Not even perl is so straight-to-the-point when it comes to anything other than text.

[AimMe]

Well, we played almost all the time (racing games), but maybe because we was learning craps -> we, one of the best high schools in Slovakia and we had to learn Mycrapsoft Office Word 2003..
I can shit on our school system..

That is so true! ATM we are learning Megashit Office and Pascal. What do we need Pascal for??? Yeah, it is easiest language for beginers since it's like writing orders in english, but still..... its old.

You think pascal is old? I can only wish we learned a programing language like pascal in high school. What we had to learn is Q-Basic.
That shit is ancient, and retarded beyond imagination.

No, pascal is not old... It's first compiler was released in 1972., that's more than two times older then me.

[XTJ7]

Haha, I started off with QBasic as well. It was awesome I remember spending nights with a friend trying to program a game Or composing simple tunes using the play command. Funny as hell!