Privileged players

[Rayne]

I have noticed before and lately this problem seems to be growing that on dswp server play quite a few "privileged" players.

These players have absolutely no consideration for server rules and break them on a daily basis while nobody seems to react to it.

One time i came to the sever under an alias and i killed a player from a well known camp spot. A mod kicked me for camping in an instant, even tho i only stood there for less than 5 seconds, killed a guy and moved on.
So if i can get punished for camping (even tho the mod was wrong in this case, he has no real way of telling if i was sitting there for 3 minutes or 3 seconds and with so many campers on that spot a rash decision is something i understand and don't raise a fuss about it) how is it possible several other players that exercise this "strategy" constantly don't even get a warning.

I watch players like gr8ron who camps like crazy and nobody moves a finger.
UFF-Frag who also likes to camp and when someone from players tells him to quit camping his reply usually is "quit whining"
Zebra(ESP) who above all loves to spawn camp.
Killa(ger) who literally lives for camping and not a single warning is issued to let him know camping is against server rules.

These are just some players that come to the server on a regular basis and break server rules willingly and in full awareness of them.

I've been playing on wurst server on and off for 2 years or so i can't even remember when i first started playing here.
And still i avoid spawn killing and camping. So my anger and frustration is justified and understandable. If i can abide by server rules and do my best not to break them then why can't others.
And not just on few occasions but on a regular and very annoying basis.

[AimMe]

Guess we like them more then we like you jk

As admin i stopped giving camp warnings and almost stopped slapping just because of situations like what you mentioned. You can never actually know who's camping and who not unless you switch to spec, which is pointless. You can only be like Humppa and kick/slap everybody or like me kick/slap nobody.

Moreover, i must admit that some players (even few you mentioned) really irritate me, but as i play (probably too) relaxed i don't care. It is true we have those campy players, but hey, if camper kills you you suck. That's how i think about it. Rusher will always have faster reaction then camper (well not if camper has hack ), so just kill him before he kills you. If he killed you, you know that free kill awaits you next time you get there.

There is one thing which makes it hard to spot real camper (i'm not talking about campers who sit on same place, but about those who actually know how to play) is because some players (great medics) can kill you from same spot few times, but actually go from defensive place A to B then to C and back to A. This way he holds whole defensive line and does great job for team without camping. While real camper will stay at place A. Now how can you know if it was medic player or camper who killed you?

About Zebra, i think he's from Spain. His gameplay changed a lot since he came here, and i can say he camps much less now, and even uses knife


BTW: I don't know why nobody ever kicks me for camp. I really wonder why...

[I feel we are i process of getting one more camper thread]

[Rayne]

Being faster than a camper can't be applied on a server where you have to go from one end of a map to another and kill half a dozen players to get to one camper that sits in a corner and takes you down as soon as you exit the spawn.
They're protected not by their skills or someones lack of the same but by their own team mates that slow down the enemy and thus give them the time needed to pick people off without exposing anything more than a tip of their helmet.

Spotting a camper is easy, if you get killed by the same person from the same place 4 times then he's more than likely camping.
Or even better take care of it from specs.

[AimMe]

I said, going to spec is not worth it.... When i have time to play, i won't be sitting in spec and kicking campers... In the end, you know what happens when everybody rushes? Teams will go around each other, then they'll start roaming and searching enemies. Well i don't play on 50 slot TDM server to play "Search and Destroy". Campers are in the end ones who give you objective: "Reach enemy spawn", because that's where you'll find them. If not, that's place from which you can "backstab" them.

And one question: when you reach some destination where enemy keeps on coming and coming, when there's no enemy you're probably reloading and healing. So you end up in position you can't go back or forward. Are you camping then? I mean you kill people from same spot 4 times...

I say, it's not camping unless you have to wait for enemies longer than 5 seconds.


But yeah, those who kill people leaving spawn are surely retarded. Like in terrorism blue on red spawn.

[HumppaLakki]

About the players you mentioned. They got warned, slapped, kicked a douzen times by me and even got gr8on and UFF Frag got tempbanned for 1d sometime ago for repeated spawnkill / camp.

There are some Privileged Players on the server, thats right. But those are players like you, Varus or Extrem (just to name some) who try to be a part of the community, rush, heal and know how to handle admins (all in all, handle me ).

If there is somebody dont understand the rules i give a fuck if he is registered in Forum, a mod or what ever. He will be warned, slapped and so on like every other "normal" player.

[Rayne]

There are some Privileged Players on the server, thats right. But those are players like you, Varus or Extrem (just to name some) who try to be a part of the community, rush, heal and know how to handle admins (all in all, handle me ).

That almost sounded like a compliment.
OK yeah we are the real privileged players. We get our points cleared when we ask, and most often without even asking. In return we do our best to maintain balance of teams, alerting admins and so on.
But these guys just ruin my day.

[urtdemos]

I feel like privileged player, when admins clear my TK points when i start behave like ass and TK afkers. Don't do this guys, my morale is dead anyway. I hope some day Urt will have some kinda smart g_inactivity

(something like this)http://www.urbanterror.info/forums/topic/23956-alternative-g-inactivity/

[AimMe]

About inactivity, we have solution... !afk. Too bad nobody uses it. Btw, !afk could be given to registered users, since it works like !ci, it can't force to spec active player...

BTW: next time dont shot at your own mates, just kick them out of way...

[natirips]

just kick them out of way...

!afk should play this song :D http://z0r.de/1781

(btw, sry for another highjacked thread)

[Kampfschlampe]

!afk. Too bad nobody uses it.

Souljah isnt using it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? O.o